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January 30, 2009

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Nice to see your excellent photo's. I have a 1GM10 Yanmar, just wished mine looked that clean! I had to bleed mine after a filter change and as I was new to this and feeling a little intimidated I checked on the net for information Ifound some results but some had omitted vital information as I later discovered. I went to a marine engineer and he said to bleed it to the pump and I asked what about the injector and his answer was that the injector acts like a one way valve so no need to bleed it there. I finally found a book in the local library by Nigel Calder and he states that you have to bleed at the injector as well with the throttle in full position,something to do with fuel delivery. Also noted in the Yanmar book it states that if the lift pump doesn't pump rotate the engine 180 degrees as to allow the lift pump to sit in the correct position in relation to the camshaft lobe. I wish Yanmar made changing the engine filter easier as you have to place the filter in the bowl as you put it back.
Grant

I would like to know about problems with the water pump on the Yanmar 1gm10 8hp and a way to stop it leaking. I've been through 6 shafts and 12 oil seals and I still have the same problem of water leaking.

Thanks so much for this. As it happens, I have 1gm10 so these pictures and these steps were EXACTLY what I needed! Very helpful.

Glad it worked out for you. Thankfully I was able to shoot these pictures on a new engine before it was installed in a boat.

This was a very helpful article.

We have a strange and intermittent fuel problem with our 4 cyl diesel (fitted tank -> large filter -> electric pump -> injector pump). What I don't quite understand is how one can bleed the filter when (as in your article) it is on the inlet side of the lift pump - surely it then operates under negative pressure, and so if one opens the bleed point one would suck air in rather than blow fuel out?

We have had some discssion with the boatyard about the relative position of the pump and the large filter. (there is a small paper filter in the pump itself)

Thanks for the encouragement. I looked at your website and it looks to me as though you have a Perkins 4-107 or 108 in your boat. Anyhow the methods for bleeding are as i described even given that your engine is larger. You will see that I drained off any water from the filter bowl then used the lift pump to pull fuel from the tank through the filter. Providing that there are no air leaks on the lift side of the pump then the top of the on engine filter, injector pump and injectors are all on the pressure side so pumping the fuel primer will force air and ultimately fuel from the system. If there is an air leak on the vacuum side of the pump or a hose is loose or whatever then you can pump until the cows come home and you will only be sucking air into the fuel line and it will be impossible to bleed the system. Please let me know if this is not helpful and I will try to give you some further advice.

Mark

Thanks - all is becoming clearer. The way the plumbing is set up at the moment it goes from the tank to the on-engine filter, to the fuel pump, and then to the injector pump.

Given the yard say the fuel is full of water (they say they have pumped out 8 litres already!!) I think we need to rearrange so it goes through a primary filter (or just a simple water trap), then to the pump, then to the on-engine filter, and then to the injector pump. As you say, the on-engine filter can then be bled.

Thanks so much for your no nonsense step by step approach. I made several novice mistakes when I bled our new Yanmar 3jh. I changed the fuel filters & omitted to fill them with fuel prior to installing them - full of air that had to be bled out of the system. When bleeding the injectors I pulled the line completely off the injector 1"/ 25mm, & turned over the motor until fuel pumped out. Experienced person tells me only need to just loosen the nut and close it while spurting fuel so minimal chance of getting fuel back in. (Still won't start?!). I will try again today. Thanks Lucky in Cairns Australia.

Hi Mark,

Excellent article! I have a question though. When one gets to step 7 where you bleed air from the fuel line where it connects to the injector, you say to "repeat the loosen, pump, tighten sequence". Two books I have read say to crank the engine to bleed the air at this point. Will pumping the lift pump manually (as you say) do the same thing?

Thanks,

Steve

Steve

Thanks for the message. The short answer is that yes it will. You can crank the engine and this is something that has to be done on larger engines without a manual pump on the side of the pump body. I prefer to do it manually however if possble as it prevents diesel from squirting out everywhere and plus everything is a little more controlled. You only need to undo the injector nut a half to three quarters of a turn at most.

Very nicely described diesel engine repair. This is very useful information regarding diesel engine repair, if we can get help online then there would not be much need for the diesel mechanic.

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